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President Bush has lost his majority in the Senate 24/5/01
PETER MARSHALL:
They were together, the President
and the Senator, and now they're
rent asunder. Today Jim Jeffords,
the solid and rather modest Senator
from Vermont, 26 years in Congress
as a Republican, announced he
was, as we predicted, jumping ship.
He'll become an independent.
SENATOR JAMES JEFFORDS:
Increasingly, I find myself in
disagreement with my party. I
understand that many people are
more conservative than I am, and
they form the Republican Party.
Given the changing nature of the
national party, it has become a
struggle for our leaders to deal
with me, and for me with them.
Looking ahead, I can see more
and more instances where I will
disagree with the President on
very fundamental issues. The
issues of choice, the direction of
the judiciary, tax and spending
decisions, missile defence, energy
and the environment. And a host
of other issues, large and small.
MARSHALL:
What Jim Jeffords was saying
was he can no longer stomach the
conservative agenda with which
George Bush has opened his
Presidency with. It was ten-year,
$1.25 trillion tax cuts which
proved the final straw. That still
gets through, but so much else
dear to "Dubya", from oil drilling
to Supreme Court appointments,
and even Son of Star Wars, is in
real jeopardy. For in losing Jim
Jeffords, Bush has lost control
of the US Senate. Up to now, the
Senate has been split right down
the middle, 50 seats for either
party. But the Vice-President has
the casting vote, so control has
been with the Republicans. They've
chaired all 16 Senate committees.
For example, the arch-conservative,
Jesse Helms, has had foreign
affairs. But no more. Under the
new 50-49 arrangement, all
committees go to the Democrats.
That's crucial, because it's the
committees which determine the
flow of Bush's legislation, what
does and doesn't move. So far,
Dubya's been a man in a hurry,
unhindered. Jim Jeffords has
stopped him in his tracks.
TIM CURRAN:
(ROLL CALL)
President Bush has to start
governing from the centre,
rather than from a conservative,
Republican perspective. He has
to take Democrats in Congress
into account on every issue he
plans to address and wants to
make part of his Presidency.
MARSHALL:
Can't Bush get his agenda
through by rolling out the "pork
barrel", as you call it?
CURRAN:
I'm sure that's tempting. That's
traditionally the way that
Presidents go, helping Senators
get special projects, roads, bridges,
recreation centres, in their districts
with Federal dollars. It's going to
be difficult to do in an
environment where he's pledged
to limit the government to a 4%
increase in spending.
MARSHALL:
So the President's scope for
using "pork", in effect Federal
bribes, is curtailed by his budget
limits. The man who now wields
most power in the Senate is the
Democrats' leader, Tom Daschle.
He's careful not to gloat, and that's
tactical. By talking of compromise,
he's painting the other side as
extreme.
SENATOR TOM DASCHLE:
(DEMOCRAT)
We know we have a divided
Government, Republicans in the
White House and now Democrats
leading the Senate, Republicans
in the House. The only way we
can accomplish our agenda, the
only way that the administration
will be able to accomplish their
agenda, is if we truly work
together in what we'd call a tri-
partisan manner. That's my
intention.
MARSHALL:
President Bush was in Ohio
today. With the Jeffords affair his
first real hit since getting to the
White House, he must be furious,
but restricted himself to saying
Jim Jeffords was wrong.
GEORGE W BUSH:
I respect Senator Jeffords. But,
respectfully, I couldn't disagree
more. Our agenda for reforming
America's public schools, providing
tax relief for every tax payer,
represents the hopes and dreams
of America. Our agenda for
reforming and modernising our
military to defend America and
our allies, represents the best hope
for peace. I was elected to get
things done, and to work with
Republicans and Democrats, and
we're doing that.
MARSHALL:
While the Senator from Vermont
prepares for life outside the party,
the President he's left in the lurch
will have to adopt a new approach.
The matey cajoling bi-partisan
Bush needs to be born again, again.
KIRSTY WARK:
I am joined from Washington by two
Congressman. First Scott McInnis,
a Republicans. The Republicans still
control the House but not the Senate.
Isn't this a disaster for George Bush
so early in his term?
CONGRESSMAN SCOTT McINNIS:
(REPUBLICAN)
Of course it is not a disaster, the
President will pass his tax bill either
this weekend or very shortly, with a
lot of support from the Democrats,
bipartisan. Same with the Education
Bill that he's got out there. Of
course this is not a disaster, there is
a shift in the committee structure on
the US senate side, but the President
will continue his course of action,
and continue it on a successful basis.
WARK:
Do you think, Jim Jeffords was
principled in what he did?
McINNIS:
Let me tell you, I think there is
some confusion in the previous
report. The Senator, while I have
respect for him, this is not based on
Conservative politics. He has been
a member of our party for 25 years,
He has had plenty of time to walk
away, if this was on principle. This
is all based on money he is not
getting for his Dairy Compact up
in the north. This is being played
in the media as a Conservative-
Liberal battle out here in DC. This
is whether they give him a blank
cheque, which is what he
demanded or he would take a walk.
Let him take a walk.
WARK:
Robert Wexler, Is it simply about
money?
McINNIS:
Of course it is about the compacts,
if he wanted to walk from the party
he could have. There are a number of
moderates in the party who did not
walk with him. A lot of moderates
are still there.
WARK:
Robert Wexler, How do you feel
about the balance of power being
changed because, as Congressman
McInnis says, he thinks it is about
money?
CONGRESSMAN ROBERT WEXLER:
(DEMOCRAT)
With all due respect to my colleague,
this is a train wreck for George W
Bush. Previous to two days from
now, even though President Bush
won by the barest of margins, he
in essence, controlled Government.
He certainly controlled the House of
Representatives, and with Vice-
President Cheney's vote, controlled
the Senate. He does not control it
any more. The apparatus of the
Senate is now in the Democratic
hands, And what he will be forced
to do, and people don't really want
to recognise this, but President
Bush has dealt with the Congress,
the Democrats in the Congress in
an arrogant fashion. He is talking
to the country in a bi-partisan tone,
but Democrats have been by and
large shut out. Now he will have to
be a true President of bi-partisanship.
It will benefit him in the long run,
but for now, it is a long big train
wreck. You can talk about it not being
a disaster, but when you lose the US
Senate, it is a big problem for the
President. He didn't have to lose it,
he didn't lose this at the election
box. He lost this because his policies
and the way he was running the
Government put off a moderate
Republican.
McINNIS:
He didn't lose it because he didn't
write a cheque for the Dairy Compact.
He wanted the Dairy Compact and
made demands on missile defence.
The President couldn't meet those
demands, so he walked.
WARK:
Robert Wexler, answer that
particular point from Scott, that it
was really about money.
WEXLER:
I'll take senator Jeffords at his word.
He said this was a matter of principle,
he is a principled man, and has been
a part of the Republican Party, for,
as my colleague says, more than two
decades. And for the first time, he
felt the Republican Party with George
W Bush as President, has completely
eliminated the ability of moderates
to participate. If you care about a
woman's right to choose, apparently
Senator Jeffords feels there's no
place in the Republican Party.
McINNIS:
There are other moderates in the
party that didn't go with him. We
had one moderate, the Senator walked
out. There are other moderates in the
Senate, and certainly in the House,
no-one else followed him. They feel
comfortable within the party, this has
to do with that Dairy Compact in the
north-east.
WARK:
Robert Wexler, let's turn to what
will happen now. How are you going
to play this? For example, I know
that you are keen in gun control
legislation. What sort of things
will you be pushing ahead on the
agenda straight away?
WEXLER:
The Republicans didn't get a mandate
in this election, and neither did the
Democrats. The Democrats control
the Senate, but the Republicans control
the House, and President Bush is
President. This isn't a mandate for
Democrats to run off on every
proposal the Democrats have always
wanted to push. The bigger reality is
that now all of the things that are
most conservative about the Bush
Presidency will no longer succeed.
Bush's judicial appointments that
are not moderate have no chance,
and is energy policy, the drill, drill,
drill, consume energy policy with
no conservation, is dead on arrival.
Things have dramatically changed
for George Bush, and I would suggest
one thing, with respect to whether
this is about a Dairy Compact. If
that's all it was about, then shame
on the President, and shame on the
Republican Party for losing control
of the United States Senate, because
they couldn't work something out
with their own member.
McINNIS:
You talk about principles, I think the
the President exercised principles in
saying he wasn't going to give a
blank cheque. "Don't hold me hostage
by threatening to leave this party, or
you get your money for the Dairy
Compact. We had a budget we had
to keep in mind, but let me go back
to what Mr Wexler said. There's no
question there's a change here. There
will be lots more negotiations. I
don't think all the judicial nominees
are conservative, but he is correct, I
think the President is going to
have to steer a moderate course. I
think, frankly, he has steered a
moderate course. We can judge
that by the number of Democrats
on the Education Bill, including my
colleague here, and how many
Democrats we had yesterday in the
US Senate that voted for the
President's tax bill, before the
change. 62, that's 12 Democrats.
If it was as conservative as being
expressed by my respectful
colleague here, those 12 wouldn't
have crossed the party line.
WARK:
I have to leave it there. Thank
you both.