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Tuesday, 2 January, 2001, 12:14 GMT
Should shops open on Christmas Day?
![]() British trade union Usdaw thinks not. They represent shopworkers and are lobbying the government to restrict retail trade on Christmas Day.
They want big shops to be prevented by law from opening, and small ones to have the written consent of all those volunteering to work. Big stores such as Sainsbury's and Woolworths in the UK will have several outlets open on Christmas Day. Do you work on Christmas Day? Would you rather not? Would you shop on Christmas Day? Is this an unstoppable trend? This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.
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Some of the contributors on this page seem to believe they have a divine right to shop 24/7 x 365. Can't find anything else to do on Christmas Day when the relatives get too much? Have you been brainwashed into a lifestyle of sleep/work/shop? The religious arguments, from either point of view, completely miss the point (the Christians corrupted the pagan midwinter feast as part of the conversion of this country). The day is a NATIONAL HOLIDAY when the majority of the population get the chance to have a break from the daily grind.
Paul Midgley, UK Just for once, I agree with the T.U. If people can't do without shopping now and again they should be undergoing psychiatric evaluation, not going mad in shopping centres.
Christmas is nothing to do with the birth of Christ. Christmas is the pagan festival of Yuletide, adopted by the Christian religion as a way of driving out paganism. I agree with John B, when the shops stock their Christmas lines as soon as the pumpkins are taken down and people spend two months preparing for one or two days yet are then expected to go straight back to work, I can't be bothered with that either.
John C., Warwick, England What a great idea to open on Christmas Day. it would do me a great favour. This would stop people like my
Brother coming around my house and stealing all the turkey! Keep them at WORK.
Karen, UK
Several years ago, my (English) wife and I went to Paris for Christmas. She was amazed that the tube was working and that we found a lovely (Italian) restaurant opened that day. I was amazed to find out that the tube, trains and buses do not operate on Christmas day in Britain.
If there is a demand and staff can be found to work then why should someone dictate how and when any business undertakes its trade?
Why should shops be any different to other places of work, many places have to be staffed over Christmas, such as Television broadcasters, electricity generators etc. The other point is that not everyone who lives in this country even celebrates Christmas, many have entirely different religions and why should they be prevented from shopping on a day that is no different to any other to them...?
Joey, UK Please, let us have one day in the year when nothing happens on the roads or in the town centres, just people visiting relatives or friends, so that we can have some PEACE! We've lost each Sunday as a rest day. Most are extended rush hours now. If we can't sort out our shopping so that it's done by Christmas Day, god help us. We've managed to do so, so far.
And, trust me, it's not for religious reasons, just the need for calm.
I don't understand why so many people play so neatly into the hands of faceless big business. I am strongly in favour of free-market capitalism, yet am constantly amazed when the build-up to Christmas always seems to start sooner, the holiday itself is always under attack with pressure to get back to work immediately afterwards, and the public stampedes like so many sheep every year! Wake up people - there's more to life than stuffing all your hard-earned cash into the pockets of grey-suited directors.
Christmas is often a day of high stress. If you want to escape the family for five minutes there is nothing you can do as nothing is open. As a non-Christian I don't see why I should be prevented from working by a Christian holiday. As long as there is no pressure from employers to work I think it should be allowed.
What is the matter with you? I have some sympathy for the fact that you are obviously overworked and under a lot of mental and physical pressure - but a breakdown! Putting your rants out to the general public and generally abusing the rest of humanity is not exactly a way of solving your mental health problems. If you weren't so self-absorbed perhaps you would have noticed that the discussion is not about introducing working on Christmas Day, it's about trying to stop it. Many people (and you are lucky enough not to be one of them) already have to work on Christmas Day, a fact you seem to not notice. Count yourself lucky for once and force a smile onto your face next time you are in work - maybe then people won't be so rude to you. Kathy, UK/NZ I think only convenient stores should be opened on Christmas Day in order for groceries to be picked up, and even then just for a limited time so workers could have some time to their families on the 25th. Maybe between 9 and 11 am would be a good time as lunch is being prepared. Other shops shouldn't open on Christmas Day as this would encourage people who do not like their gifts to go and exchange them immediately, ruining the spirit of Christmas!
Not at all! Otherwise the roads
and many spots of
public interest
will look almost
deserted creating
such a great day a charmless one.
Some people would welcome working on Christmas Day. I would if I could. I would rather work or go shopping etc than listen to the Queen's Speech and stuck with relatives I don't like!
Daryl Moistner, USA As I sit here (just in case some moron has forgotten his username/password for the 30th time this month) wondering how long I am going to have wait to get a taxi home (remember no public transport on Christmas Day!) My heart bleeds for people that might be asked to work on the same day I am working at the moment...
364 days are quite enough
Growler, Philippines
The whole holiday has already become a commercial nonsense, so why shut the shops? They are the real church of Xmas after all . . .
Alan, UK
I have to agree with P Quaid: Staff are coerced into working these days as the voluntary nature of retail here over many years is volunteer to work or you will not get a promotion, a pay increase and often it is brought up in your annual appraisal as lack of commitment. Having worked in retail for fourteen years with a DIY leader I have seen it all. Sundays at premium rates turned into a normal days pay, Christmas meant one extra day off over a two week period, late finishes Xmas Eve to set up for the silly Boxing Day Sale and a rush by people not wanting to purchase much but looking for something to do. Like many western countries Britain today has lost the values of rest and relief. Yes some have to work exceptional hours to cover for emergencies and to maintain systems but I am sure they get some time off later, any days retail staff work are usually in addition to their normal working time. Come on, we all need a rest sometime.
Christmas has become increasingly more commercial, more hedonistic and more materialistic over time and that is a widely accepted fact among the vast majority of people. It's a boring stereotype; put up decorations a month or two in advance, eat far too much, go to a Christmas party and get totally pissed, open presents, get stuffed... You know, the usual. Quite frankly, the concept is lost on most people so why do we bother? Close the shops on Christmas day for God's sake!
My local Spar has been working on Xmas for the last few years
and the pub opens for a few hours - so what is all the fuss about. It is useful
to be able to run out and get something you forgot and if employers want to
pay triple time then fine. Not everybody in the UK follow Xmas, with 2m Muslims and
countless eastern Orthodox and Jews, Xmas is no more than another day so if people want
to work, what's the problem? Saying it's a religious holiday won't wash because 1% go to
church and Xmas is just a pagan Roman celebration anyway. So no argument.
Jenny, UK
Sue D, UK
What a sad, pathetic society we have become. Spiritually dead and perpetually starved as we feel the need to consume one piece of garbage after another. Has anyone out there ever read The Wasteland by TS Eliot? Well that describes the state we're in now pretty well. And to think that we cannot even stop for one single tiny little day. What would even be the point of Christmas? Just another couple of days where people can worship the their new god, Money, and fill their greedy fat lives with more useless, unnecessary objects. I yearn for a day when we will all react against this madness and embrace some form of spirituality once again. I am feeling bloated and sick of all this consumerism.
Alexander A, UK
With the commercialisation of Sunday over the last few years, Christmas day stands alone as a day where the vast majority of people can spend quality time with their family. It's wonderful on Christmas day to go for a walk after the family dinner and see the town at rest. We all need to take a day to reflect on what's important in life. Surely the rat race can be put on hold for one day.
Taking the religion out of
Christmas was one thing.
But asking people to
work, and preventing
them from enjoying the
traditions of a Bond film,
too much lager and a
fight with the in-laws
is unforgivable.
If you work in the I.T. industry every day is treated exactly the same as the next. We all work odd hours and days. I myself will be 'on call' for problems from Xmas Eve through until New Year's Day. The world will keep turning no matter what day it is. So why should other industries consider themselves different??
I'm working in my shop in Oxford on Xmas day, and I really don't mind.
After all there is little else to do and people will run out of essential goodies. Anyway, just what is the proportion of people who believe in God to those in England?
Jacquie Green, England
The USA is probably a few years ahead of the UK in commercialising the Christmas Holidays. However diverse the country is, it is still a nation with its foundations in Christianity. There is no need for shops to open on Christmas Day. I would urge you all to fight this move, which behind the scenes is probably being fuelled by the large retailers. We in the US have seen the erosion of understanding of our important holidays. They have become nothing more than "Sale" days at the stores. Don't let the same happen in the UK. Families spent too little time together already. Don't destroy this quality time altogether. Families who are not Christian can use this as a "family day".
Having been both a union rep and a manager of staff I know that pressure is put on people to work overtime, weekend hours and holidays. If they don't get the volunteers, names come out of hats. There is no way of policing the employers to make sure people are truly volunteering. As for it being a diverse society these days, I am currently living in New York City and you can't get much more diverse than that BUT everywhere will be closed here Christmas Day (even the Jewish company I work for). Protect these holidays.
My first Saturday job was with Woolworths and at Christmas you were pressurised to work. It was always a case of if you don't then someone else will, with the undertone that you would be out of a job if you did not work, particularly on Boxing Day and New Year's Day. For some people Christmas Day is the only public holiday they get.
I work for a software service company whose services support shops, banks, etc. The more the shops stay open, the more work that we have to do, now including full 24 hour shifts right through Christmas. I hope the greedy chairmen of Sainsbury's and Woolworths are forced to work 6am until 2pm on Christmas day and miss their children opening their presents. We only get one life. Mine seems to be spent at work and like many others I am totally fed up!
According to part of the last change to the Sunday Trading Act, there are 2 days when shops cannot open, these being Easter Day and Christmas Day. If the likes of Sainsbury's open on one of these days then they should be prosecuted as they agreed to the terms of the change to the Sunday Trading Act so they were free to trade the other 363 (364) days of the year.
Also it is really a pleasant change to be in continental Europe on a Sunday when nothing is open. It's like being in England 20 years ago!!
Rob, England
Given that London has no public transport on Christmas Day, I can only hope that this will be an expensive failure, which will put the big shops off trying it again. Granted, only a tiny minority want to attend religious services, but even my Jewish and Moslem colleagues are glad to have a a holiday! As it is, Hanukah and Eid coincide very closely with Christmas this year, so why can't we all just relax with our families - and be grateful to those who are staffing absolutely essential facilities.
Can we not have one day that is different in this hectic country. Shops are open long enough as it is, I for one will be as far away from shopping as possible all next week. What happened to a walk in the country or visiting friends and family?
Peer Quaide, UK
I grew up in inner-city Birmingham.
On Christmas day the only shops
open were the Asian corner shops
who couldn't have cared less about
opening hours or Christmas, which means
nothing to them. It was a godsend. It was
great to know that if you needed something,
you could nip out to the local Asian corner
shop and get it. Now I live in a totally
different area and there are no shops open
at all on Christmas Day and I don't like it.
Christmas day is the only day where (almost) everyone has the day off. It will be a victory for Capitalism if shops start opening on Christmas day. Big companies just have to spoil everything.
What is wrong with opening later in the evenings to make shopping more flexible. Opening on Christmas Day is pure greed and completely unnecessary. Shops do need to be more flexible, but I think the answer lies with week night opening hours being stretched to the evenings. Christmas Day is a day for families - let's keep one day a year for this.
This doesn't surprise me. As a McDonald's employee I am "privileged" that the restaurants are closed on Xmas Day
Greer S, UK
Is it really too much to ask that one day out of 365 should be a little different? Whether or not you celebrate Christmas, it is surely a spiritually healthy thing for the whole country to have a quiet day, with no (or virtually no) shops open. Towns and cities, as well as people, need a break, even if it is only once a year.
I'm happy to see shops close on Xmas, but I think that changing the draconian English Sunday trading laws deserves higher priority. If supermarkets can remain open until 8pm in Scotland on Sunday, why not in England?
Sally, England
No to shops opening on Christmas Day. Are the retail sector not allowed to have family life? Yes, many staff get generous overtime payments for this but what of salaried staff? In my personal experience of working in this sector even the lowliest departmental manager is not entitled to overtime payments and is expected to work all the hours God sends. My husband earned £18,000 pa with ASDA but the number of hours he was expected to work dropped his hourly rate to that below the man who tidied up the trolleys! This is were this sector is most exploitative and it's about time USDAW had the bottle to do something about it!
I think opening large stores is a terrible idea. It seems that most people seem to worship in Supermarkets rather than in Church. What next, getting married in Supermarkets? Imagine walking down the frozen food aisle ... !
Marc, UK
I (like millions of other people) do not celebrate Christmas but appreciate the time off. My wife, who works for a call-centre, is getting paid £35 an hour for working at Xmas - so surely personal choice is the key factor. We seem to have become obsessed with shopping. When one travels abroad many shops open only traditional hours and yet everyone still manages to eat!
Andy Spencer, England
Remember that no employment contract in Britain today explicitly states an obligation to work Christmas Day. And no boss would reasonably expect his/her full-time staff to volunteer themselves either. Therefore this initiative represents nothing less than a great opportunity for part-time (perhaps students) or hard up staff to earn a premium rate by choice. Furthermore, when you find yourself buying that forgotten cranberry sauce 15 minutes before serving, thank god there's not a law in place making you look stupid at lunch!
The crux of the argument should be whether there is a need to lobby the government to legislate and ban all retails activities or not. Personally, I think it is a superfluous gesture, adding unnecessary restrictions on people's already shrinking freedom.
We live in a multi-ethnic and multi-religious country where Christmas is not celebrated by everybody. If employees wish not to take off the Christmas Holidays then that is their decision.
No one must be made to work over the Christmas holidays which must be supported by law.
However we do need essential services, hospitals and nursing homes, running over the holidays.
For the people working during this period, they should be well rewarded for their efforts.
A Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year to everybody and especially to anybody working over the holiday.
Steve Brereton, UK
Tim, Brit, now in France
Rachel, UK
Christmas Day has no religious significance for many people, myself included. Despite my total antipathy towards religion I do believe in opportunities for families to be together, with nobody required to work. If people want to work I see no reason why they shouldn't. Personally I never buy anything meaningful on Christmas Day, simply because I usually have everything ready before then. If I get caught out (e.g. forgetting to buy batteries) I will buy those on the day, but otherwise avoid it.
Richard Medlycott, UK
I think Usdaw's idea is a sound one.
If a corner shop owner or a chemist wants to open on Christmas Day then why not? They'll be providing a valuable service.
But the big boys should be prevented from opening because despite what they say they will force some of their workers to be in, either by fear or by guilt.
Some people have to work on Christmas Day (Police, medics etc), there is no need for shops to open too. My partner works in retail and has been coerced into working on "Bank Holidays". Don't let the greedy merchants hijack Christmas like they did with Sundays a few years ago. ENOUGH!
Matt, Amsterdam, Netherlands (ex-UK)
Why not? I used to work in a pub and had to work Christmas Day. So long as people volunteer to work, aren't coerced and get a decent rate (say triple time) then it should be up to them!
In the past, religion stipulated what days you should work and those you should not. Religion though has lost its once strong influence on society. Competition is now what influences these businesses, and so it should be the Government that steps in to ensure that at least a few days a year everyone gets a break from work.
We can all see how unhappy Bob Cratchit was when he had to go to work on Christmas Day - a day that traditionally should be spent with one's family and friends. Is there no end to the greed of companies like Sainsbury's, and Woolworths? Perhaps a visit from three spirits wouldn't do any harm!!! If the big companies have their way we'll eventually be expected to work Xmas Day and like Sunday it will become the norm. I will never shop on Xmas Day. Shame on them for ruining the day.
Graeme, Germany, ex-UK
If you are in France on Christmas morning you are able to go to most local bakeries and buy bread just like any other day. Many shops are closed but for a couple of hours in the morning most necessities are available. I can't see the problem with shops opening as long as those working in them are quite happy with the situation.
There is constant pressure from the secular majority in this country to drive out any religious observance. They claim to be more enlightened and tolerant but cannot tolerate anything getting in the way of commerce. What's so bad about everyone having a day off anyway?
Nathan Hamer, Wales
There is absolutely no need for any retail shop to be open on Christmas Day.
Where do we draw the line?
All religions should recognise Christmas Day as a holiday.
Wanting to shop on Christmas Day is just another example of people being selfish. As long as they don't want to work they see no problem with making others give up holidays. As someone who has worked in retail I have seen this level of selfishness on numerous occasions.
Maybe if everyone from shopworkers to bank staff to accountants were told that they had to work seven days a week 365 days a year, you would see an end to such trends.
I'd welcome shops opening on
Christmas day provided they paid
their staff properly. How often
have you needed something and
found there's nowhere to get it?
Besides, not everyone celebrates
Christmas, so we shouldn't force it
on people who don't want to.
Will, UK
I have shopped on Christmas Day.
I've been on call on Christmas Day.
I've not worked, but I would have no
objection to doing so. I, like many
people, am not a Christian, so
where's the problem?
It's going to happen. Spending money is what kids and young adults like doing for fun nowadays. The only problem is the staff - take out the human resource restrictions and every high-street store would open their doors on Christmas day.
Struan Grant, Germany
With many supermarkets opening 24 hours in the run up to Christmas, surely it is unnecessary for them to open on Christmas Day?
Retail staff deserve Christmas Day off too!
Unless we care for other people who depend on us, or we run the infrastructure our society depends on (electricity, gas etc) I can't see any reason why we should be forced to work on a Bank Holiday, or penalised for exercising the option not to. Doesn't Big Business make enough profit the rest of the year?
Nick Curtis, UK
No way!
I am only 30 but still remember the days when all was quiet on Sundays and Bank Holidays and people took time to relax or do what they wanted.
Nowadays those unlucky enough to work in shops are forced to work all hours and those not working in them see fit to shop all hours of the day.
Madness, I wish we could return to having peace and quiet at least one day a week!
Absolutely ludicrous decision.
Who on earth is going to go shopping on Xmas day? Hey, if the store wants to open and pay willing staff triple time to man the place, sounds like capitalism at its best ... and when (and if) it doesn't pay, then they won't do it again. All this "make a law against it" rubbish is really quite immature.
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